pkrfce9;151823 wrotethese guys were raising a lot of hands, usually the old blind raise to 15 UTG and sometimes 30 in LP. 2nd guy called sooooooo many PF raises and floated flop bets i was surprised he hadn't busted yet but he played the turn and river pretty well (i.e. stole a lot of pots with no showdown) and seemed to know his players. i've got about 1400. crazy #1 has maybe 400 and #2 about 800.

this hand, surprisingly, was limped by about 4 players to me in the SB. i have 54o, so i check as does the BB. flop comes 854 rainbow. bottom 2 for me. usually i lead out here for something around pot but i felt i was very likely the 2 crazy asians will call, possibly raise and i won't know how huge my hand is here. plus maybe the sane guys actually have something, too, which would really confuse me... plus i knew at least one of them would put more money in the pot with diddly.

check, check, check then crazy #1 bets pot, as expected. crazy #2 calls, again as expected. i figure my hand is likely best and don't want to mess around and get counterfeited or sucked out so i raise to 120. crazy #1 folds with a disgusted look on his face. crazy #2 looks at me for a minute or so then raises to 330 with about 500 and change behind.

i play a fairly tight game (lol) and i'm not sure that i have checkraised at this table yet in 1-2 hours of play. i don't believe anyone has caught me bluffing here yet, either.

what to do here? i marked this guy as one of the bigger bluffers on the table but i'm not so sure in this situation. any estimates of a hand range in this situation?

You know what they say about bottom 2 on a coordinated board in an unraised pot? I don't go broke in this spot. It's tough that it is vs the crazy player, but he has something here unless he's a complete idiot as you are playing tight. I would say his range is 2 pair, top pair, pair with straight draw, overpair, set and straight. You do the math, not me.

You are obviously doing well in this game, is this a spot you want to risk a good chunk of your stack? Not me in a good cash game.

IMO the spot for getting your stack in with bottom 2 is vs a tight EP raiser who you can put on a big pair preflop, not here.